Sunday, April 02, 2006
Why have the feminists who were against pornography lost the battle?
From post at the Cotillion - We've come a long way... NOT:
I think current culture is a very liberal type of sexism, which has some elements of older strands of feminism, but not more than that.
There are feminists who are pro-pornography and feminists that are anti-pornography, so we can't talk of feminism as only one thing, because there have been many different feminist groups that think quite differently. Why have the feminists who were against pornography lost the battle? And why did the very sexist, disgusting liberals who consume billions of dollars of porn shove more and more porn as legitimate is a questions that needs to be asked. The great majority of porn consumers and producers are not feminist, unless you reduce the label to equate to any pro-porn person. But I think that is reduction is not appropriate, it's too extreme.
Posted by: alessandra at March 15, 2006 01:02 PM
Alessandra:
I don't think I meant to suggest so much that feminism was to blame for this, so much as to remark on the fact that despite the advances of feminism this sort of thing is on the rise. Doesn't that seem odd to you? That there is MORE of this surgery now that women are supposedly liberated?
This is what we're choosing to do with our money and freedom. Your question is perceptive:
Why have the feminists who were against pornography lost the battle?
Posted by: Cassandra at March 15, 2006 05:17 PM
Hi, sorry for not responding earlier, but I've actually been thinking about your question. It's actually a complex question to answer (or at least that is how I would want to answer it). I started writing a few paragraphs in my mind the other day, but then didn't put them on paper, so now I have to start over :-)
I'll be back later when I have something more coherently defined.
I couldn't help but look around at modern culture: our obsession with larger breasts, vaginal rejuvenation, designer labia, hooking up and porn culture, and ask myself where the feminist revolution has taken us? Have we taken one giant step forward or two steps back?
I think current culture is a very liberal type of sexism, which has some elements of older strands of feminism, but not more than that.
There are feminists who are pro-pornography and feminists that are anti-pornography, so we can't talk of feminism as only one thing, because there have been many different feminist groups that think quite differently. Why have the feminists who were against pornography lost the battle? And why did the very sexist, disgusting liberals who consume billions of dollars of porn shove more and more porn as legitimate is a questions that needs to be asked. The great majority of porn consumers and producers are not feminist, unless you reduce the label to equate to any pro-porn person. But I think that is reduction is not appropriate, it's too extreme.
Posted by: alessandra at March 15, 2006 01:02 PM
Alessandra:
I don't think I meant to suggest so much that feminism was to blame for this, so much as to remark on the fact that despite the advances of feminism this sort of thing is on the rise. Doesn't that seem odd to you? That there is MORE of this surgery now that women are supposedly liberated?
This is what we're choosing to do with our money and freedom. Your question is perceptive:
Why have the feminists who were against pornography lost the battle?
Posted by: Cassandra at March 15, 2006 05:17 PM
Hi, sorry for not responding earlier, but I've actually been thinking about your question. It's actually a complex question to answer (or at least that is how I would want to answer it). I started writing a few paragraphs in my mind the other day, but then didn't put them on paper, so now I have to start over :-)
I'll be back later when I have something more coherently defined.
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