Friday, January 28, 2005
Apparently the Chaps in the UK Have Gotten Themselves into a Police State
Something or other mentioned in the Guardian got Harry (no, not Prince Harry) upset about how Britain is now becoming a "police state." Over at Chase Me Ladies. He is exorting his fellow bloggers to riot. Selected comments below:
Ralphy:
Riot? about some legal humbo? right.
david c:
As an afterthought, the only way you'll get our countrymen out on the streets these days seems to be if you can somehow persuade them that the argument in question involves a fox.
anonymous coward:
Personally, I think I would like to know what the definition of a police state is, before I decide that I live in one. It's hard to believe that a democratically-elected government, which subjects itself to frequent, fair, and free elections, could be called a police state.
But that's my personal opinion. If you want to give in to mass hysteria because the Guardian says so, hey — be my guest.
Ralphy:
IDIOT!
yes, you AC. Police state is not your grandma's god damned notebook-defined oh her it is a cup of sugar bullshit. A police state is where you sir or madam are afraid of the bloomin cops. A free state is where the cops are afraid of you, sir or madam.
Definition of Police State. No, this isn't stalinist russia. This isn't life under the Taliban. This ain's your grandfather's big brother. To put it simply (and hopefully you see this through your paint-huffed head over there)
Now, I ask you... where do we the people stand today.
George Johnston:
The fuckers are still going to get back in though aren't they?
Yes, I hear they are going to import the voting machines used in Florida and Ohio. A minor amount of reprogramming (changing Bush to Blair) and the matter is settled.
Alessandra:
"Where the People fear the Government - you have tyranny;
Where the Government fears the People - you have rights. TJeffy
Da man TJ forgot to mention the scenario where I live in. People here are too featherbrained to elect anyone to the government who can actually tie their shoelaces, so one is never exactly sure who to fear more, the huge menacing mob of morons (i.e. that lovely braindead liberal populus) or their equally frightful dimbat officials (all democratically elected by the mob, of course).
That´s why *I* live in constant fear.
The bros talkin ´bout a police run ´hood know nothing ´bout fear. A mass society without police is run by mobs, usually dressed in sheep´s clothing.
Have to say, though, it offers you variety. You can pick who to fear, like the color of your t-shirt. On Monday you fear the mob, on Tuesday, da police and on Wednesday, the elected mob officials... and so life goes.
Ralphy:
Riot? about some legal humbo? right.
david c:
As an afterthought, the only way you'll get our countrymen out on the streets these days seems to be if you can somehow persuade them that the argument in question involves a fox.
anonymous coward:
Personally, I think I would like to know what the definition of a police state is, before I decide that I live in one. It's hard to believe that a democratically-elected government, which subjects itself to frequent, fair, and free elections, could be called a police state.
But that's my personal opinion. If you want to give in to mass hysteria because the Guardian says so, hey — be my guest.
Ralphy:
IDIOT!
yes, you AC. Police state is not your grandma's god damned notebook-defined oh her it is a cup of sugar bullshit. A police state is where you sir or madam are afraid of the bloomin cops. A free state is where the cops are afraid of you, sir or madam.
Definition of Police State. No, this isn't stalinist russia. This isn't life under the Taliban. This ain's your grandfather's big brother. To put it simply (and hopefully you see this through your paint-huffed head over there)
"Where the People fear the Government - you have tyranny;
Where the Government fears the People - you have rights." Thomas JEfferson.
Now, I ask you... where do we the people stand today.
George Johnston:
The fuckers are still going to get back in though aren't they?
Yes, I hear they are going to import the voting machines used in Florida and Ohio. A minor amount of reprogramming (changing Bush to Blair) and the matter is settled.
Alessandra:
"Where the People fear the Government - you have tyranny;
Where the Government fears the People - you have rights. TJeffy
Da man TJ forgot to mention the scenario where I live in. People here are too featherbrained to elect anyone to the government who can actually tie their shoelaces, so one is never exactly sure who to fear more, the huge menacing mob of morons (i.e. that lovely braindead liberal populus) or their equally frightful dimbat officials (all democratically elected by the mob, of course).
That´s why *I* live in constant fear.
The bros talkin ´bout a police run ´hood know nothing ´bout fear. A mass society without police is run by mobs, usually dressed in sheep´s clothing.
Have to say, though, it offers you variety. You can pick who to fear, like the color of your t-shirt. On Monday you fear the mob, on Tuesday, da police and on Wednesday, the elected mob officials... and so life goes.
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