Sunday, November 07, 2004
Pro-homosexual bigots are all alike - David Hume said it a long time ago
Developments at Classical Values
Ironic that the "reality-based community" has chosen a sterotype (the moronic, hypocritical, bigot) to describe those with whom they disagree. This, of course, allows the RBC to create their own reality - one in which there are no good-faith disputes over policy or culture - and insolate their beliefs from any debate or empirical examination.
The RBC have already decided that anti-gay bigotry cost them this election. This will become the "Bush stole Florida" meme of 2004 - no matter how much evidence contradicts this "reality", 4 years from now it will still be gospel for those who believe themselves to be influenced only by their superior understanding of the real world.
posted by: Daniel
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Alessandra-->> This comment by Daniel that the RBC crowd does not allow for discussion or examination is particular acute in the universities. This is where most of the worst harm is done. Media is second.
For example, pro-homosexuals have equated anti-homosexuals with haters. This maligning trick has seeped in popular culture so much so, that we see anti-homosexuals and/or anti-gay marriage supporters having to state that they are not full of hate. As if they ever were.
This is exactly the same as equating people who are anti-pedophilia, anti-prostitution, anti-SM as full of hate. A bigoted and cheap tactic to malign people who have opposing viewpoints with some ad hominen attack label.
Fortunately, it seems slowly but surely many Americans are catching on that the slimy "label your viewpoint opponent as full of hate" tactic is nothing but the sign of bigot incapable of discussion.
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Alessanda wrote here (on a man's man's blog):
"For example, pro-homosexuals have equated anti-homosexuals with haters."
Anti-homosexuals are indeed motivated solely by hatred of the good for being the good, though some of them may be merely confused fellow-travelling dupes.
"This maligning trick has seeped in popular culture so much so, that we see anti-homosexuals and/or anti-gay marriage supporters having to state that they are not full of hate. As if they ever were."
The truth is that they are and have always been motivated by hatred of the good for being the good.
"This is exactly the same as equating people who are anti-pedophilia,"
Equating homosexuals with child-rapers is a despicable lie.
"anti-prostitution,"
Prostitution, while it should be legal, is not in the same moral category as the eternal faithful love (marriage) between two women or two men.
"anti-SM as full of hate."
S&M is hate inverted into love, agony into ecstasy, which is indeed the leitmotif underlying all sexual passion, the sexual bond, the holy bond, bondage, of wedlock.
"A bigoted and cheap tactic to malign people who have opposing viewpoints with some ad hominen attack label."
The favorite tactic of the anti-homosexual movement, e.g., the lie that homosexuals have an "agenda", are irreligious, promiscuous, degenerate, out to corrupt children, linking them with Communists, etc.. These are all lies.
"Fortunately, it seems slowly but surely many Americans are catching on that the slimy "label your viewpoint opponent as full of hate" tactic is nothing but the sign of bigot incapable of discussion."
I may very well be a "bigot" (dogmatist) incapable of discussion with the enemies of my freedom and values. I know that I am right, and that is good enough for me.
posted by: Steven Malcolm Anderson (Cato the Elder)
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Prostitution, while it should be legal, is not in the same moral category as the eternal faithful love (marriage) between two women or two men.
by Steven Malcolm Anderson (Cato the Idiot)
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The Gay and Lesbian Medical Association has recently disclosed: "Domestic violence is a hugely ignored health issue in the LGBT communities, affecting one in three LGBT relationships."
Cato the Idiot above calls this love. Cato the Idiot is obviously too steeped in denial about how violent GLBTs are to have a clue. People who are too irresponsible to face mass violence problems (such as 1 in 3 violent GBLT relationships) are not fit to opine on such issues, much less serve office, school, parish, military, etc.
Prostitution, either legal or illegal, accounts for the destruction of millions of lives of children, adolescents and adults around the world. People like Cato the Idiot are too dehumanized to care or know. The only thing their small minds can muster is that people who are not ignorant, self-serving pro-homosexuals like them are full of hate.
Cato the Idiot, and the throngs of idiots like him, are not full of hate, they are full of joy and comfort with the destruction of so many human lives, and shoving sexual violence and denigration wherever they go, covering it up with a veneer little speech about freedom.
posted by: Alessandra on 11.07.04 at 11:10 PM [permalink]
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"This is exactly the same as equating people who are anti-pedophilia,"
Equating homosexuals with child-rapers is a despicable lie.
by Steven Malcolm Anderson (Cato the Idiot)
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First, homosexuals were not being equated to pedophiles. ( As two asides, second, not all pedophiles end up raping children. Third, a number of pedophiles are not straight, guess what that makes them?)
Pedophilia, homosexuality, prostitution, SM are all examples of sexuality problems and having a critical viewpoint towards any or all these issues (and all other sexuality problems we have in the world) does not equate anyone to being full of hate.
That is only a maligning tactic of slimy, ignorant pro-homosexuals.
posted by: Alessandra on 11.07.04 at 11:23 PM [permalink]
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I may very well be a "bigot" (dogmatist) incapable of discussion with the enemies of my freedom and values. I know that I am right, and that is good enough for me.
by Steven Malcolm Anderson (Cato the Idiot)
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"When men are most sure and arrogant they are commonly most mistaken, giving views to passion without that proper deliberation which alone can secure them from the grossest absurdities"
David Hume (Scottish philosopher, historian, economist and essayist)
posted by: Alessandra on 11.07.04 at 11:46 PM [permalink]
Ironic that the "reality-based community" has chosen a sterotype (the moronic, hypocritical, bigot) to describe those with whom they disagree. This, of course, allows the RBC to create their own reality - one in which there are no good-faith disputes over policy or culture - and insolate their beliefs from any debate or empirical examination.
The RBC have already decided that anti-gay bigotry cost them this election. This will become the "Bush stole Florida" meme of 2004 - no matter how much evidence contradicts this "reality", 4 years from now it will still be gospel for those who believe themselves to be influenced only by their superior understanding of the real world.
posted by: Daniel
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Alessandra-->> This comment by Daniel that the RBC crowd does not allow for discussion or examination is particular acute in the universities. This is where most of the worst harm is done. Media is second.
For example, pro-homosexuals have equated anti-homosexuals with haters. This maligning trick has seeped in popular culture so much so, that we see anti-homosexuals and/or anti-gay marriage supporters having to state that they are not full of hate. As if they ever were.
This is exactly the same as equating people who are anti-pedophilia, anti-prostitution, anti-SM as full of hate. A bigoted and cheap tactic to malign people who have opposing viewpoints with some ad hominen attack label.
Fortunately, it seems slowly but surely many Americans are catching on that the slimy "label your viewpoint opponent as full of hate" tactic is nothing but the sign of bigot incapable of discussion.
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Alessanda wrote here (on a man's man's blog):
"For example, pro-homosexuals have equated anti-homosexuals with haters."
Anti-homosexuals are indeed motivated solely by hatred of the good for being the good, though some of them may be merely confused fellow-travelling dupes.
"This maligning trick has seeped in popular culture so much so, that we see anti-homosexuals and/or anti-gay marriage supporters having to state that they are not full of hate. As if they ever were."
The truth is that they are and have always been motivated by hatred of the good for being the good.
"This is exactly the same as equating people who are anti-pedophilia,"
Equating homosexuals with child-rapers is a despicable lie.
"anti-prostitution,"
Prostitution, while it should be legal, is not in the same moral category as the eternal faithful love (marriage) between two women or two men.
"anti-SM as full of hate."
S&M is hate inverted into love, agony into ecstasy, which is indeed the leitmotif underlying all sexual passion, the sexual bond, the holy bond, bondage, of wedlock.
"A bigoted and cheap tactic to malign people who have opposing viewpoints with some ad hominen attack label."
The favorite tactic of the anti-homosexual movement, e.g., the lie that homosexuals have an "agenda", are irreligious, promiscuous, degenerate, out to corrupt children, linking them with Communists, etc.. These are all lies.
"Fortunately, it seems slowly but surely many Americans are catching on that the slimy "label your viewpoint opponent as full of hate" tactic is nothing but the sign of bigot incapable of discussion."
I may very well be a "bigot" (dogmatist) incapable of discussion with the enemies of my freedom and values. I know that I am right, and that is good enough for me.
posted by: Steven Malcolm Anderson (Cato the Elder)
===============================================================
===============================================================
Prostitution, while it should be legal, is not in the same moral category as the eternal faithful love (marriage) between two women or two men.
by Steven Malcolm Anderson (Cato the Idiot)
==============================
The Gay and Lesbian Medical Association has recently disclosed: "Domestic violence is a hugely ignored health issue in the LGBT communities, affecting one in three LGBT relationships."
Cato the Idiot above calls this love. Cato the Idiot is obviously too steeped in denial about how violent GLBTs are to have a clue. People who are too irresponsible to face mass violence problems (such as 1 in 3 violent GBLT relationships) are not fit to opine on such issues, much less serve office, school, parish, military, etc.
Prostitution, either legal or illegal, accounts for the destruction of millions of lives of children, adolescents and adults around the world. People like Cato the Idiot are too dehumanized to care or know. The only thing their small minds can muster is that people who are not ignorant, self-serving pro-homosexuals like them are full of hate.
Cato the Idiot, and the throngs of idiots like him, are not full of hate, they are full of joy and comfort with the destruction of so many human lives, and shoving sexual violence and denigration wherever they go, covering it up with a veneer little speech about freedom.
posted by: Alessandra on 11.07.04 at 11:10 PM [permalink]
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===============================================================
"This is exactly the same as equating people who are anti-pedophilia,"
Equating homosexuals with child-rapers is a despicable lie.
by Steven Malcolm Anderson (Cato the Idiot)
==============================
First, homosexuals were not being equated to pedophiles. ( As two asides, second, not all pedophiles end up raping children. Third, a number of pedophiles are not straight, guess what that makes them?)
Pedophilia, homosexuality, prostitution, SM are all examples of sexuality problems and having a critical viewpoint towards any or all these issues (and all other sexuality problems we have in the world) does not equate anyone to being full of hate.
That is only a maligning tactic of slimy, ignorant pro-homosexuals.
posted by: Alessandra on 11.07.04 at 11:23 PM [permalink]
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I may very well be a "bigot" (dogmatist) incapable of discussion with the enemies of my freedom and values. I know that I am right, and that is good enough for me.
by Steven Malcolm Anderson (Cato the Idiot)
===================
"When men are most sure and arrogant they are commonly most mistaken, giving views to passion without that proper deliberation which alone can secure them from the grossest absurdities"
David Hume (Scottish philosopher, historian, economist and essayist)
posted by: Alessandra on 11.07.04 at 11:46 PM [permalink]
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